How long does seo take? San Diego SEO
How long does SEO take to DO? In other words, if you hire an seo to do your seo, how long will it take for them to their magic tricks?
This really depends on your SEO budget, how skilled your SEO is, and how often google and other search engines are visiting your site.... and if your site is search engine friendly in the first place. With my clients, I generally start on the SEO fairly quickly.
I do basic SEO, things that will make the search engines take notice, and start looking around the site more frequently, while the search engines are doing their thing, I do research finding out what are the best SEO strategy's for this particular site considering the budget.
implement those strategy's which use the budget in the best way. then if the clients budget allows I will carry on with the SEO making the website rank well permanently for highly sort after keyphrases. So the answer is,
A few days from when the SEO starts, for basic seo.
How long does SEO take to WORK?
For the seo work to start to appear in search engine rankings, can take anything from a few hours, to a few weeks, a lot depend on how often search engines are visiting the site, and if the navigation within the site is search engine friendly. (that's one reason I make quick changes, so I can see google progress through a site) I'm working on a site at the moment, it has over 300 pages, and yet google has only found 7 pages for a sitewide change I made over a week ago, just as a test.
Obviously something is very wrong. The problem is, the first results in search engines aren't final. So if you have SEO done and your site ranks #3 within a few days, then chances are that ranking will only maintain for a short while, it depend a lot on how popular the keywords are you are wanting to rank highly for.
In saying above I have worked on sites that don't want to rank for competitive keywords, or are niche sites, and their sites have ranked well quickly and stayed ranking highly for one phrase, we then branched out and started working on different keywords.
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Links Directory's do NOT raise your Google page rank
This for the main part is NOT true, it doesn't matter how high a directory's pagerank is, but the time it get's to a level where your site is listed, the page rank is zero, and will never get any higher. There are a few directories that have been around for years, that are worth adding your site to like dmoz but the rest of them, and programs like the pageranksubmit.com are a waste of money, if all you want to do is raise your page rank.
See this is generally how pagerank seems to work the home page of a site will have the highest page rank, links direct off that homepage, that are links that don't use JavaScript or flash, have a page rank one point lower than the home page, and then pages off these pages that aren't using JavaScript or flash to make the links have a page rank of 2 less than the home page, this is generally how it works, unless the second level of pages have a large amount of links, which directory's do then the pagerank is lost by the second page, and often you have to click in 5 or 6 links deep before you get to a place to add your website.
There is no page rank there, and if there's no page rank on the page your link is on, then it doesn't have any effect on your pagerank.
So don't waste your money paying a high rice for directory submissions to directories with high page rank, usually the reason they have high page rank, is because they have used code, stopping the page rank from draining into links inside their site.
Just use a cheap directory submission place, this one charges only 14 cents per submission, and yes it's a affiliate link but I only recommend products that I use, and this is one of the few things I do use.
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How Much should SEO cost, what some people charge for their SEO services
This is a really hard question to answer, it's a bit like asking how much a car costs, it just depends, one of the first considerations is how big is the site, what is it selling.
And one of the first questions I reply to this "how much" question with, is what is your budget? Then I ask how many visitors they would like to their website each month.
When I client tells me how much their budget is, and how many clients they are wanting to their website each I can give them a few options.
For a low budget generally speaking though, often $500 plus $1 per each visitor per month is a good way of working it out. This works at the lower end of the scale anyway, so if a client is looking only looking at another 1000 visitors a month, then often $1500 will be a good starting point one of the SEO clients I have has paid $2500 on SEO over 2 years and is getting an extra 7000 visitors per month, so this simple sum doesn't always work. Once you start looking at 10's of thousands of new visitors a month, the budget per visitors drops dramatically, getting visitors to a website initially is the hardest task, getting more visitors in general isn't that time consuming.
I have an SEO client that I've just started talking about SEO on her website, she has a budget of $30,000 over the next year, and if wanting to increase her website visitors to 250,000 per month. The client has an global art gallery online, so generating plenty of visitors should be easy enough. A lot of time will be spent link building, and building the pagerank of a lot of the internal pages, I have 4 clients with artist websites. I only do minimal work for them, but have always found linkbuilding easy for these site.
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I was recently reading a blog for an SEO Who always quoted $50,000 then $5000 per page for SEO work, looking at what he did when doing SEO on a website, the sites he did seo for, they were doing ok, but nothing that special, they were ranking between 7th and 9th on page #1 of google, so paying more for SEO, doesn't mean you will get better results, if just means your SEO doesn't work with people on smaller budgets, personally I would perfer have my site ranking higher for more phrases, than to be able to say, I spent $70.000 on SEO, I guess though that there is a certain amount of snob value in saying that huh.
Getting Used to Vista, and work as Ususal
having just got a new computer, with vista on, I'm after what 5 days, just now getting all my emails, favourites, found a skin for maxthon I like, revisted sites I belong to and loggin in. I've changed browser 4 times, lost my email 2 and when I found it, it didn't install about 8 times... geeze what a pain.... anyway all is well now.
Worked on EmpressGems fixing up a few things, but really thats all I have done...
oh yeah, I did some work on Hobits Hints
I also added the Southern Gothic to websites to The Directory Submission Place I added another $20 for CanzDesign as well, I really love that place, just add your websites details, pay the money, and then in a few days the emails start arriving, that your website has been submitted to some directory or other.... and the spam from the directory starts coming.....
Ok, gotta go and rest, been online for 18 hours.....
Been Busy SEO'ing
One our own site, I have been writing various articles and adding them to the site, fixing up links within out site, and tweaking the meta tags of the site. I have also posting in several forums, and have written about 7 articles for Buzzle an article website. You can check out my articles on Buzzle by looking here http://www.buzzle.com/authors.asp?author=9145
I'm about to start taking screen shots of our SEO friendly CMS, there's been a lot of interest from Artists and photographers wanting an easy way of displaying their images.
The other sites I do SEO work on, have been having great results,
www.gemhunters.com.au has yet again increased it's visitors by over 2000 a month, and sales are up, the owner is thrilled. It lost a PR point on Google a couple of rounds ago, but if getting far more hits, being found for far more different search keywords and key phrases, and with sales skyrocketing everyone is happy.
I'm still working on the www.peoplecoachingpeople.co.nz site , and am teaching it's owner to do her own optimization, she seems to be picking it up quickly.
www.buykiwimade.com has had a make-over in the past month, I got rid of the CMS that was there, and created a directory for NZ owned websites.
I'm also doing the SEO work on three other websites, that are about to be opened.
www. Aotea. net is a web hosting website one of 6 we have built for the same company is about to be my next SEO job.
That site is going to be a real challenge, since there are at least 10 other sites owned by the same person, that have the same content on them. Google hasn't banned the site, but it seems to have put the site onto some kind of bad list, and is only visiting the site about 30 times a month, a site that size should be having Google visit at least 500 times a month, even if the content doesn't change. Read about the results of SEO for one of these sites here
Zillions of $$ from google adwords
I found a pdf online the other day, and eventually read it, it contained the formula for making a lot of money out of websites by having adsence on the site. It made pretty good sense to me, so I thought I would run it past you.
The basic idea, is to create a small website, that wasn't selling anything, just giving good advice on any given subject. Build a home page and say 5 more pages, with relevant information. Say the site is about SEO, and each page is about a specific keyword or key phrase to do with SEO, say one way backlinks, reciprocal links, linking text, search engine submission, and sigs on forum posts. Each page is linked to from the home page using anchor text from the home page article, then link each page first to second, second to third again using anchor text. .
The he recons outsource the job of submitting the home page to directory's, using good keyword based text links not more than 50 sites per week. meanwhile making your next 6 page website. On a different topics as long as the sites are informational and not selling anything.
Since the sites don't have any outbound links, they don't lose anything to other sites. Then link to the site from your main money making site. Once your site starts getting index, add another page at the rate of one page per week. (google see's there's changes which is good) once your PR starts to climb, then add google adsence to the pages, still keep the outsourcer adding your site to fifty directory's per week, and add another page per week. And make another website per week.
This guy says that the better the page rank of the page the ad appears on, the more you get paid to have advertisements on those pages...which makes sense.
He suggest you slip the adsence into your content rather than have it at the end of your page. And continue adding more backlinks to each site, by article submission, and other ways you know about, he again suggests you outsource this work, basically you keep making a new site each week, and adding one page to each site you have already built.
Realistically this would be a LOT of typing, but if you were writing about subjects you were particularly interested in, You could knock out one site a week for 10 weeks or so, and how much would it cost, the cheapest global domain names I have seen are $5USD. Say you made 20 sites in a year, that would be what $100 in domain names, hosting, well we can have as many
domains as we want, so that doesn't count, but renting a reseller domain costs sweet stuff all a month, and outsourcing the link building he quotes at $150 per site, $3000 per year, personally I think it would be more than that, the cheapest i have heard of, apart from the meat market, if .60 UScents per link, oh, thats right, there's one place that offer's 500 links for $250.
But this dude recons that within a year, the sites would be earning $10 per day per website, because of the high page rank of all the pages.
His figures were, $3600 earnings per website per year, x 48 websites = $172,800 per year, - 7200 for outsourcing = $165,600 profit.
I could possibly see how it could work, if you had nothing else to do but write content, and had a few grand around to pay an outsourcing place. It sounds good anyway....
Thinking as I do, I thought about the potential backlinks to the main site that could be gained once there pr had built up, and if instead of buying domain names, you were to make sub-domains with relevant names for the topic of these mini-site, as long as the main website name was also relevant. What I got from the articles was the sites should not be trying to sell
anything, but be purely informational, no fancy graphics, just good old well SEO'ed html pages.
It makes me wonder how fast a new domain could potentially build up page rank, using his idea. Makes me think about buying a cheap domain name, one thats keyword heavy, even if it is a long one, and try it out. I have witnessed, a pr3 in 5 months, with very little SEO work done.
With your site, I wonder if you had a subdomain with your articles on it, you have on the main site, if that would count as duplicate content. Would probably be best to have another domain name, possibly on a different server, I have to wonder about duplicate content, this dude, I'm doing the seo work for, had no less than 10 websites all with the same content, just the titles and metatags are different. And all his sites have a pr of 2 or 3. I guess it's one step away from duplicate content.
I've also been thinking about directories, and how to make duplicate directories. And how this may be the way some people can offer 2000 directory submissions for $100. If you had a domain name with say 20 subdomain names, and had a database driven directory, you could link each directory to the one database. So a link added on one directory would appear
all to sites in one hit. If you had a couple of hundred sub-domains, it could work the same, and since some database driven sites are massive, with huge numbers of people using them at once, think of some of the massive forums, and how many visitors are on one topic at a time. So it could be done, and if there were a few non database driven web pages on each site, to the content was somewhat different. It wouldn't take long to add links to 2000 directory's. If the directories ever became popular to actual people, rather than just search engines, you might have to make more than one database, but still.
Oh, if I could get a job, where all I had to do was think or research ideas, and someone else do the grunt work.....
Blogs.
I have a google blog, and with it you can post a posting by sending an email. So I could send this email to both you and the, and have another blog posting. Wish they had been around when Kym and I were emailing each other, it would have been fun to have a record of our friendship growing, and eight months of daily emails to read back on. Actually, I might just send the
email to the blog to see if it will work, sending it to you and it.
Regards Lynn Bishop
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