Re: Zillions of $$ from google adwords

Hello Lynn,

I read your email with a lot of interest. I haven't read the pdf, so my
comments may be off the mark.

What you say confirms my previous inkling that to make good money with
AdSense you need a LOT of keyword rich, good quality content. Having each page target a keyphrase or two with anchor text to other internal pages makes good sense and is what we do for our main content pages and recommend to others.

Outsource directory submission (50 per week): Who can you outsource to that will do a decent job of varying anchor text. Most directories are tiny with tiny PR. If you outsource, I'm sceptical about getting a ROI.

Make your next 6 page website on a different topic: How many topics can we be an expert in? And if the topics are related, why not subdomains on one main domain. This has the advantage for Google of looking like it's growing, and overall size.

Then link to the site from your main money making site: If this is to gain PR, Google can tell who owns domains and devalues interlinking between domains owned by same owner.

Add another page per week and make another website per week: How may hours in a day and how many areas of expertise do you/we have?

The better the page rank of the page the ad appears on, the more you get paid to have advertisements on those pages: This might explain why our AdSense income is going up while we are taking AdSense of our main pages. Add more backlinks to each site, by article submission, and other ways you know about: How many hours in a day? If you outsource this, will you get a ROI?

You could knock out one site a week for 10 weeks or so: There's not just the typing. There's the keyword analysis, thinking up good content, massaging it into good copy whilst being mindful of keywords. And what about the web design. Sure, you can use a simple template, but will this do to get quality incoming links?

I agree with you that domain registration/webhosting/ISP costs are minimal. That's what's so great about an internet business. Outsourcing the link building he quotes at $150 per site: What kind of link building? Reciprocal links from quality sites or submitting to twenty zillion tin potty little directories? I can't see you getting anything of real links value at $150. 500 links for $99 - that's 20 cents per link. What kind of links would they be? If they are of any value, I'd gladly pay $99.

$3600 earnings per website per year, x 48 websites = $172,800 per year, - 7200 for outsourcing = $165,600 profit. Net profit is income minus all expenses: webhosting/ ISP/ office/ webdesign/ accounting/ legal/ marketing. And if the owner pays themselves a salary for all of their time, what exactly is left?

Doing a sanity check using our own situation, our site is 3.5 years old with approx 330 pages. We have PR=5 and have AdSense adverts on almost all of our 150 article pages (PR=2). Yes, most are duplicates, but we also had adverts on our unique content pages (PR=3). We also do lots of eZine articles, forum posts and reciprocal links. We get approx $500 per year. This is very
different from $3,600 year - and after all of that hard work. You could say that our article AdSense pages are neither keyword targeted nor unique. Yes, but our content pages were (totalling at least 20 pages), and we still didn' t make that kind of money. One question is: Just how many pages do you need at what PR to make $3,600 per year?

"Makes me think about buying a cheap domain name, one that's keyword heavy, even if it is a long one, and try it out." If we had the time, we would join you. I'd be really interested in seeing how you go.

With the guy that has no less than 10 websites all with the same content, just the titles and metatags are different, it's not one step away from duplicate content, it IS duplicate content. He won't get banned; it's just that the later in time duplicate pages won't show up in the SERPs. Same with our articles written by other consultants - the older original articles will show up instead of our article pages. That's OK because these pages are not designed to get high PR. They serve other purposes.

This may be the way some people can offer 2000 directory submissions for $100: Aren't these just auto submissions at that price?

I've also been thinking about directories, and how to make duplicate directories: I'm sorry I couldn't follow what you were saying on this one, Lynn.

I have a google blog, and with it you can post a posting by sending an email: What's the url of your blog?

With Google AdSense, I think I agree with you that making a lot of money can be done. I'd like to see an example of some urls and some detailed accounting figures. I just have difficulty seeing how you can get high PR over a sufficient number of pages to get that kind of money.

We get reciprocal invites from sites that are, as they say, "built for AdSense". They mostly come through LinkMarket and from people with SiteBuildIt CMS sites. When I look at them, I see a minimum of content and so obviously built just for the advertising. The sites look crap and I
reject the offer because they would be of so little value to our web visitors. I'm sure there must be better AdSense sites than these.

Some closing comments: Even if we were able make over $100,000 with AdSense, it is another question whether we would want to go down that track. One consideration is the market risk. Making AdSense bring in loads of money would probably entail backing off our own business. This puts more of the business risk into AdSense. PPC costs to advertisers are going up along with greater disillusionment over click fraud. If the PPC market goes belly up, your income would go belly down. If you have your own products and services, no one can take these away from you. If one media (e.g., the internet) goes under, you could still pursue your market through other media/means. The risk is less than putting all your eggs in the AdSense basket.

The second consideration is personal interest and meaning of life. Sure, with AdSense you write content on subjects you are interested in. Assuming you have enough expertise to go around a number of subjects, will this be personally fulfilling enough? We get enormous satisfaction in producing new products and building our own unique brand. To become simply a portal for
Google does not fill either Les or I with an inner glow. These observations are, of course, personal, and everyone will be different - in how they manage business risk and in their personal drivers.

If there was a not too difficult way to make an income from AdSense, we'd be the first to look at the details closely. We're making approx USD $40 per month. This could certainly do with improvement.

Talk again soon.


Zillions of $$ from google adwords

Hi Vicki.

I found a pdf online the other day, and eventually read it, it contained the formula for making a lot of money out of websites by having adsence on the site. It made pretty good sense to me, so I thought I would run it past you.

The basic idea, is to create a small website, that wasn't selling anything, just giving good advice on any given subject. Build a home page and say 5 more pages, with relevant information. Say the site is about SEO, and each page is about a specific keyword or key phrase to do with SEO, say one way backlinks, reciprocal links, linking text, search engine submission, and sigs on forum posts. Each page is linked to from the home page using anchor text from the home page article, then link each page first to second, second to third again using anchor text. .

The he recons outsource the job of submitting the home page to directory's, using good keyword based text links not more than 50 sites per week. meanwhile making your next 6 page website. On a different topics as long as the sites are informational and not selling anything.

Since the sites don't have any outbound links, they don't lose anything to other sites. Then link to the site from your main money making site. Once your site starts getting index, add another page at the rate of one page per week. (google see's there's changes which is good) once your PR starts to climb, then add google adsence to the pages, still keep the outsourcer adding your site to fifty directory's per week, and add another page per week. And make another website per week.

This guy says that the better the page rank of the page the ad appears on, the more you get paid to have advertisements on those pages...which makes sense.

He suggest you slip the adsence into your content rather than have it at the end of your page. And continue adding more backlinks to each site, by article submission, and other ways you know about, he again suggests you outsource this work, basically you keep making a new site each week, and adding one page to each site you have already built.

Realistically this would be a LOT of typing, but if you were writing about subjects you were particularly interested in, You could knock out one site a week for 10 weeks or so, and how much would it cost, the cheapest global domain names I have seen are $5USD. Say you made 20 sites in a year, that would be what $100 in domain names, hosting, well we can have as many
domains as we want, so that doesn't count, but renting a reseller domain costs sweet stuff all a month, and outsourcing the link building he quotes at $150 per site, $3000 per year, personally I think it would be more than that, the cheapest i have heard of, apart from the meat market, if .60 UScents per link, oh, thats right, there's one place that offer's 500 links for $250.
But this dude recons that within a year, the sites would be earning $10 per day per website, because of the high page rank of all the pages.

His figures were, $3600 earnings per website per year, x 48 websites = $172,800 per year, - 7200 for outsourcing = $165,600 profit.

I could possibly see how it could work, if you had nothing else to do but write content, and had a few grand around to pay an outsourcing place. It sounds good anyway....

Thinking as I do, I thought about the potential backlinks to the main site that could be gained once there pr had built up, and if instead of buying domain names, you were to make sub-domains with relevant names for the topic of these mini-site, as long as the main website name was also relevant. What I got from the articles was the sites should not be trying to sell
anything, but be purely informational, no fancy graphics, just good old well SEO'ed html pages.
It makes me wonder how fast a new domain could potentially build up page rank, using his idea. Makes me think about buying a cheap domain name, one thats keyword heavy, even if it is a long one, and try it out. I have witnessed, a pr3 in 5 months, with very little SEO work done.

With your site, I wonder if you had a subdomain with your articles on it, you have on the main site, if that would count as duplicate content. Would probably be best to have another domain name, possibly on a different server, I have to wonder about duplicate content, this dude, I'm doing the seo work for, had no less than 10 websites all with the same content, just the titles and metatags are different. And all his sites have a pr of 2 or 3. I guess it's one step away from duplicate content.

I've also been thinking about directories, and how to make duplicate directories. And how this may be the way some people can offer 2000 directory submissions for $100. If you had a domain name with say 20 subdomain names, and had a database driven directory, you could link each directory to the one database. So a link added on one directory would appear
all to sites in one hit. If you had a couple of hundred sub-domains, it could work the same, and since some database driven sites are massive, with huge numbers of people using them at once, think of some of the massive forums, and how many visitors are on one topic at a time. So it could be done, and if there were a few non database driven web pages on each site, to the content was somewhat different. It wouldn't take long to add links to 2000 directory's. If the directories ever became popular to actual people, rather than just search engines, you might have to make more than one database, but still.

Oh, if I could get a job, where all I had to do was think or research ideas, and someone else do the grunt work.....

I have a google blog, and with it you can post a posting by sending an email. So I could send this email to both you and the, and have another blog posting. Wish they had been around when Kym and I were emailing each other, it would have been fun to have a record of our friendship growing, and eight months of daily emails to read back on. Actually, I might just send the
email to the blog to see if it will work, sending it to you and it.

Regards Lynn Bishop

Why the text in a link is important

You have all heard about getting backlinks to your site right? And how important they are correct? Well here's a well known way to double the impact of backlinks.

Instead of making a linking something like like you usually do, make the linking words, use your websites keywords into a link, eg Best SEO Company in NZ if you click on either link, they will both go to the same place, but unless someone knows the name of your site already, in which case they probably wouldn't be searching for it, so they would or may be searching, in this case, for Best SEO in NZ. Google and most other Search Engines take special note of this linking text, even more than the title and meta tags or content on the page.

For proof of what I say try doing a search for "click here" you will find the adobe pdf reader is the #1 ranking in google, and yet on the page itself, or in the title or meta tags, you won't find any mention of the words "click here". But think of all the websites you have been to that have a pdf, and tell you to "click here" to download the pdf reader.

Using a bit of lateral thinking, you can see how a linking campaign using many different combinations of your main keywords, could make your site show highly in Search Engines for many many different keywords or keyphases, as I prefer to call them.

Emailing a post to this blog RuleZ!!!!

Regards Lynn Bishop

I think I have worked out how to make multiple directories.

Warning this post is just for fun, don't take seriously!!!!!!

I was just burbling away on my other blog, wondering how people could get banned for having too many backlinks to quickly, and I think I might know how or why.

If you were uncouth and into blackhat SEO have a directory database, and linked to the same database for several directory's then linked each directory to each other from a none database webpage. You could probably build up pagerank quite well correct?
Then is you entered new links into the database it would show up on several "different sites" in a matter of seconds. Do this say 300 domain names, and each domain name have say 10 subdomains, you'd have 3,000 websites.
I mean even if you had 300 databases just servicing their own subdomains, it still would be possible to add a new link to all 300 databases in a few hours. Result, would be 3,000 new links to your site in one day. If you sold that service, to even only $300 per sucker, (tell them it would take 30 days to do all those submittions), you'd only need what 20 suckers, to cover costs, and make a profit, it would probably be a couple of months before google caught on and banned your site. Then you could sell the domain names off cheap on ebay or something.

I wonder how long it would take for google to catch on, to get your pagerank up, you would need to add some content that was sort of unique, but hell you can buy content for 5 cents per page and if you that unclouth, you'd probably steal it anyway.....

Make you wonder if it could work huh, the databases would probably be slow, if you linked to them from too many sites, but you only want google to spider them anyway. Or would you.... you'd probably be gone before any of your poor suckers caught on.

I have been reading about all sorts of sleezy tricks people are doing to up ther page rank. I think my idea, is actually just pie in the sky and wouldn't work, but hell I exercised my brain, and had good fun, so what the hell.

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